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For video only: lowlight, sharpness, focus & post grading?


Graeme-Gforce-Hector | Asked  a year ago | Last response was 7 months ago

I want to shoot brand activations at events, nightclubs and concerts

Which camera do you recommend for Graeme-Gforce-Hector?

Nikon D800 - $2,797
36.2 MP|Full frame CMOS|3.2" LCD
Canon 5D Mark III - $3,499
22.1 MP|Full frame CMOS|3.2" LCD
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  1. Beginner II
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    a year ago ZambaWamba recommends neither camera

    Sharpness: D800

    Low light: 5DM3

    Post grading: D800

    Focus: D800

    The D800 offers better sharpness and uncompressed HDMI output, but the 5D wins in low light.

    If you use it only for video, you might want to consider a dedicated video machine though, not a DSLR. 

    If you happen to shoot any stills, the D800 wins, the low light performance in stills is much better than the video low light performance, but that's not your question.

    Overall, reading your work description, I'd say the 5D might suit you better, because low light performance seems important to you. 

    You should check this out and judge a bit for yourself: http://vimeo.com/42381520

    And also, if you get the chance, try out both cameras.

    Also there's this gem that showcases the D800 in low light a bit: http://vimeo.com/36305675 but I'm sure you can find a good low light video from the 5D as well.

    1. Beginner II
      a year ago ZambaWamba
      Seeing that comparison video again I say you could go with the D800, you're going to apply noise reduction anyway, might as well apply it to the sharper picture for less money. But again, out of the box the 5D is amazing in low light.
    2. Beginner I
      thanks Philip bloom does best review I've seen: 30min but worth sitting thru.. http://philipbloom.net/2012/05/13/fullframeshootout/ both 5D & D800 have strong and weak points leaving me stuck in the middle.
    3. Beginner I
      If i could find a good PORTABLE PRO video cam that handles low light i would prob take it - the canon XF100 was amazing in every-way except low light :(
    4. Beginner I
      There are alias issues on D800 too but you can put a filter in (See P.B. review link i sent :) sorry it didnt make a link... http://philipbloom.net/2012/05/13/fullframeshootout/
    5. Beginner I
      off to shooot on A77 now will check back in in AM thank you all xx
    6. Beginner II
      a year ago ZambaWamba
      If you were just someone who shoots a video and immediately posts it on the internet, I would have no problem telling you to get the 5D, since for your work it seems better fitting. But you seem to know your stuff, so I think the D800 gives you more potential, you do need to tweak it though, just like you need to tweak the 5D. It basically comes down to this: You can reduce noise in the D800 (which is very evident in the comparison video I posted), but you can't add sharpness to the 5D. Ask yourself, do you do post work. Because with treatment, the D800 wins, untreated the 5D wins. I haven't seen the Bloom comparison, I'll check it out, thanks for that.
    7. Beginner I
      Philip recons all the 5D MKIII footage needs sharpening in post and then it comes to life will check your link out on its and the de noiser ive moved to FCPX and there are no de noisers that are compatible - funny enough i shoot a lot of stuff thet ends u on utube for clients although i woud like to expand
    8. Beginner I
      have u seen the following new cams: Black Magic Cinema Camera SONY PMW-100 also like to give the Canon XF100 another go and Sony HXR-NX5 to see which offers bestportability/specs and low loight
    9. Beginner I
      yep this was the 1st vid i saw got really exited for the D800 thing is they using some serious kit with the cams :)
    10. Beginner I
      the 1st clip was very insightful thank u kindly let me know your take on the PB one
    11. Visitor
      10 months ago Todd-Aquino-Michaels
      I'm going with the D800 when I upgrade. Canon's high noise ceiling is due to the in camera noise reduction. This can be beneficial depending upon your workflow. On the positive side, you don't need to denoise footage over 1600iso, it's clean looking, and not demanding in post. Downside is that the blacks get crushed as a way to disguise noise, and the overall image will always be softer than the D800's. Also, the uncompressed HDMI out is fantastic if you need a cinema-level image and can afford the $1000 for the Ninja 2 and a HDD. Better latitude, color correction, less artifacts. Although I do hear good things of the Canon All-I compression. Again, it depends on HOW you want to shoot. I've seen great work with a D800 where at high ISO (6400), with Neat Video denoising and some color correction, you can get a sharper, more detailed image than a 5DmkIII. So here's my perspective: If you just want to run, gun, and have that quick, high-throughput, versatile workflow, grab the 5dmkIII. You can shove Nikon and Canon glass on it with adapters. If you want a sharper image with more depth in shadows and the opportunity to capture higher quality video with an external recorder, grab the D800.
    12. Beginner I
      10 months ago Graeme-Gforce-Hector
      Thank you so much - great advice, it affirms a lot of what i have researched too. It looks like i am going to be going for the Black Magic Cinema Camera and be a test subject for the new technology and learn along the way. Many thanks mate :)
    13. Visitor
      10 months ago Todd-Aquino-Michaels
      Good luck! Let us all know how it fares.
    14. Beginner I
      10 months ago Graeme-Gforce-Hector
      Will do! rather exited to be getting one of the 1st cams.
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  2. Beginner I
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    a year ago Guy-Levavi recommends the Canon EOS 5D Mark III

    I'm a nikon guy But The mk III does better at video than the D800 

    Less megapixels =less noise 

    1. Beginner I
      agreed but the video is softer and needs more treatment in post, Nikon sharper but low light not as great :(
    2. Beginner I
      I have a sony A77 so the D800 should be quite a big leap - sony only lets you go up to 1600 iso on video and its pretty noisy at 1600
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  3. Beginner I
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    7 months ago Cesarxp30 recommends the Nikon D800

    Nikon D800 has huge pixel, good image details & better sharpness in both video and still photos, Better Sensor and good post grading. Low lights is ok but struggles on higher than ISO

    Canon 5D Mark III less sharpness when taking video and still photos. Also canon 5d mark III are less sharp when down graded and resampled while Nikon D800 still best & sharp images when photos are resampled. Low lights is ok and good on higher than ISO. 

    Conclusion: NIKON D800 WINS FOR FAIR COMPARISON (for better picture / video quality and for better price)

    If someone insist that Canon 5D Mark III is still the winner for the fair comparison then who the hell are who shoots without lighting? except for those movie scripts that need to be totally dark.

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