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Adjustable aperture or ND filter?


Philip-Roy-Rezanow | Asked  a year ago | Last response was 10 months ago
A question about Fujifilm S4200

I own both a S4200 and a S4000. I am familiar with manual modes, and have tested the cameras out in different settings. No matter what the aperture is set to, I see no difference in depth of field. The Fuji website reports this:

Aperture

F3.1 / F8 (Wide)

F5.9 / F8 / F20 (Telephoto)  with ND filter 

So, instead of a smaller aperture, it just uses a darkening filter? 

Am I imagining things, or does this camera have no real aperture control? 

What is your answer?

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  1. Intermediate II
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    10 months ago heuscher

    The answer is that any given aperture on your camera will give a much greater depth of field (DOF) than the Canon 450D at the same aperture because the sensor on your camera is much smaller than the Canon. It is so small, as are your minimum apertures, that you cannot obtain shallow DOF.

    The Canon APS-C sensor is roughly 22.2mm x 14.8mm. Your S4200 sensor is 6.2mm x 4.6mm. That Canon sensor is over 11 times larger. That is also one of the reasons DLSRs are expensive.

    COMPARISON: to obtain the same DOF as a Canon 450D at 50mm focal length and aperture at f/4, you need a lens of something like 15mm at f/1.2, which you don't have. For good out of focus backgrounds a portrait photographer would use a 35mm sensor camera with an 85mm f/1.4 lens, for which you to achieve with your camera requires a 16mm f/0.3.

    There's lots of information around, just Google "depth of field sensor size".

    To obtain the shallowest DOF you need to be using maximum telephoto and minimum aperture, and then your subject (in focus point) needs to be very close to you... a few metres away at most for noticeable results. These are the key elements affect DOF with a given sensor size. The closer the better. In short though, your cameras are not capable of obtaining shallow DOF. It is not an issue of there being a variable ND filter - it's also highly unlikely it uses that sort of technology as well given normal aperture mechanisms are very cheap and work perfectly well.

    Hope that helps.

    1. Expert III
      10 months ago Philip-Davis
      Great answer. Hmm, I wonder how large the lens diameter would have to be in order to support f/0.3. :)
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    10 months ago Abhilash-Bhaskaran

    i am not sure what you are trying but .. what focus point are you using, single point or area ..

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      10 months ago Philip-Roy-Rezanow
      Single point focus. I am trying for depth of field. I have tried to focus on the nearest object, making sure to have different objects at differing lengths away from me (i.e. standing next to a building, focused on a nearby flower - behind the flower are a nearby vehicle, and a distant tree). No matter what I set the aperture at, the focus depth remains the same (flower in focus, with the vehicle and tree fairly blurry). I've picked up a Canon 450D (Rebel XSi) and a few lenses ( EF-S 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6 IS and EF 75-300mm 1:4-5.6 III USM) since I asked this question, and I can easily see the difference between aperture on this camera. I've taken shots of a grassy field, focused on the nearest plants - at an aperture of f/4, the nearest are in focus, and the rest is all blurs. When I put it at f/32, there is so much more in focus with only the most distant objects being really blurry, and the near they were the more in focus it was. The difference is dramatic, which leads me to believe that the 'aperture' differences in the S4000 and S4200 (and I would assume the entire series of those Fuji Finepix S series) are merely an illusion of ND filters.
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