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Mainly film, movies, low light, action, drama, short and rain shots
Sonja-Marie-Fernandez-Cruzado | Asked  10 months ago | Last response was 4 months ago

Im not a beginner nor an expert, I am looking for a camera to bring my imagination to life and to achieve that cinematic and film look without the grain and noise, I shoot a lot of indoor/outdoor, lowlight and rain situations, preferably on the cheap side but will spend enough. Also what lense should I use to achieve that big screen look to my movies I also use a lot of effects in post-pro don't know if thats any useful information.  And lastly I need a friend whom I can consult for setting management on the camera and shots and angles for films and movies...

Also what about the sony a77? I've seen the specs and how it compares to the 600D, is it a better investment? or is it not worth it because of the lenses sony uses? I seriously do not know about lenses that much so...

P.S. This will be my first professional camera.

Which camera do you recommend for Sonja-Marie-Fernandez-Cruzado?

Sony A77 - $998
24 MP|APS-C CMOS|3" LCD
Canon 7D - $1,279
17.9 MP|APS-C CMOS|3" LCD
Canon 650D - $699
17.9 MP|APS-C CMOS|3" LCD
18 Answers
  1. Beginner I
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    10 months ago Sinan-Soyal recommends the Canon 650D / T4i

    As a reference "Capturing Movie" 

    1. [Sensor] Neither 7D has a full frame sensor nor 650D. This was disadvantage of both. 

    2. [Flip-out screen] 650D has flip-out screen; that is pretty enough to any angle , even recording yourself you will get good results. 

    3. [Full HD] both have same options.

    4. [24p] As far as I know both have (Check once more)

    5. [Price] 650D almost 45% cheaper

    6. Go for a good apertured lens as f/1.5 to f/3.5 because you need dept of field.

    7. Buy a tri-pod, shoulder rig

    8. Enjoy!!!

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  2. Beginner II
    Sony SLT A77
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    10 months ago Juan-Delgado recommends the Sony SLT A77

    a65 giving the fact that you want to bring your imagination to life well the a77 gives you color options with out the use of photoshop plus the video capabilities of using 

    Video Mode : AVCHD: 

    PS - 1080/60p@28Mbps

    FX - 1080/60i@24Mbps

    FH - 1080/60i@17Mbps

    FX - 1080/24p@24Mbps

    FH - 1080/24p@17Mbps

    MP4: HD 1080/ 30p@12Mbps

    VGA - 480/ 30p@3Mbps

    :-)

    1. Intermediate II
      8 months ago Diego-Tony-Silva
      yes, A77 is the best DSLR in video shooting, and hi speed photo shooting :D
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  3. Beginner I
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    10 months ago Ian-Vergara recommends the Canon 650D / T4i

    The 650D can take advantage of Canon's new STM lenses which provides continuous AF during video. The autofocus motor is also fairly silent so it won't spoil the video with autofocusing sounds.

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  4. Intermediate II
    Sony SLT A77
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    8 months ago Diego-Tony-Silva recommends the Sony SLT A77

    Sony A77 has biger viewfinder, and better, cus you can see better than your eye, I checked, cus i have an A77, you can shoot at 12fps at 24 MP with continuous focus between shoots !! A77 has a really nice HDR  ; A77 is really impresive camera ! and you have image stabilization with all sony, minolta, sigma, tamron lenses !! canon  dont have this greate feature ! sony A77 has 19 points of focus with 11 cross sensor, this will help you to focus better !

    A77 has 60fps in video mode, in FULL HD AVCHD with autofocus phase detection !!

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  5. Intermediate III
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    10 months ago WaterlooAlex recommends the Canon EOS 7D

    I'm recommending the 7D because I know a lot of people use it for video.  Given unlimited budget I'd say go for a full frame camera to get the best image quality at high ISO, but I think the 7D will do very well.

    Lenses definitely make a big difference, checkout LensHero, I'd recommend prime lenses for the 7D. Shooting with a longer focal length prime lens will both provide flattering perspective for your subjects, and get incredible narrow depth of field which for me is what really creates that film look, for example you could get the Canon 50mm f/1.4 lens. 

    Color grading is a post processing effect I've seen people use that works really well, try browsing videos on Vimeo and see how they've been made!

    Here's a fun video shot with a Canon 7D and a 35mm f/1.4 lens:

    http://vimeo.com/6475938

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  6. Beginner II
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    10 months ago Dastan-Zhumagulov recommends the Canon T2i / 550D / Kiss X4

    videowise same as 7d but lighter, spend the rest money on steadycam, light, mics, glass and stuff

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  7. Beginner II
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    5 months ago Matei-Marcusanu recommends the Sony SLT A77

    Based on the information you provided, I would say Sony A77 is a no brainer!

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  8. Beginner II
    Canon 650D / T4i
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    10 months ago Ron-Giles recommends the Canon 650D / T4i

    I own the 7D and love it. It was a definite step up from my 20D. However, if you intend to use it for video and are not an accomplished videographer you'll find manually focusing in many situations is difficult. The 650D/Rebel T4i has continous auto focus in video mode. I think this will be the trend in the future for DSLR's. Wish I had it on my 7D. The 650 is about $600 less than the 7D. Buy a nice fast autofocus 1.4 lens with the difference.

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  9. Beginner II
    Canon T2i / 550D / Kiss X4
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    10 months ago 620hun recommends the Canon T2i / 550D / Kiss X4

    If you have money, go for the 7D, but if on budget buy the 550D instead of 650D. It's 90% the same camera without flip-out screen, but a way-way cheaper. Invest the difference in lenses. And it also supports Magic Lantern.

    1. Visitor
      10 months ago Sonja-Marie-Fernandez-Cruzado
      what lense should I use?
    2. Beginner II
      10 months ago Sushrut-Ahale
      Is 650D not worth its value??
    3. Beginner II
      10 months ago 620hun
      I'd say no, unless you find the flip-out touch scren with touch autofocus useful.
    4. Beginner II
      10 months ago 620hun
      That depends on your budget.
    5. Visitor
      10 months ago Sonja-Marie-Fernandez-Cruzado
      maybe $300 at most... can I get a lense that will make my movies look cinema worthy for that price?
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  10. Expert III
    Canon 600D / T3i
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    10 months ago Philip-Davis recommends the Canon 600D / T3i

    For video, consider buying the 600D and installing Magic Lantern on it.  I have no video experience but I've heard that Magic Lantern is a must-have for people serious about video.  But also that Magic Lantern isn't available for the 7D and I don't see it out for the 650D yet either (although presumably it isn't too far off...?)

    I don't know what lenses are best for video.  But on a crop body, I imagine the answer is something like a 24mm prime or 35mm prime.  Also, by the 'big screen look' are you referring to 24 frames per second?  If so, the 600D supports that.

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  11. Expert I
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    10 months ago Brenden-Sherratt recommends the Canon 650D / T4i

    I would go with the 650D or Canon 5D Mark II (although it is out of most people's budget), the reason being is that Magic Lantern, which is a 3rd party video firmware that you can install on your camera, doesn't support the 7D. Magic Lantern will give you greater control over how your camera deals with video.

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    10 months ago Sonja-Marie-Fernandez-Cruzado recommends none of the cameras

    Wow! Thank you to all who've generously answerd my question! You guys are great! Thanks for the advice! I will consider every answer and when I decide and purchase the camera I'll let you all know, thanks again guys!

     

    P.s. Sorta leaning towards the 650D, maybe the 600D as well...

    1. Expert I
      10 months ago Brenden-Sherratt
      There is not a huge difference between the 650D and the 600D: Canon-EOS-650D-vs-Canon-EOS-600D at sortable.com you might be able to pick up a used 600D and then invest in some good glass.
    2. Visitor
      7 months ago Cesar-G-Abueg-Jr
      If you want continuous autofocus, and slow motion HD, go for the a77...the other DSLRs don't do that, so its a big hassle. You can have awful sound, and a great lens on your camera, but if your shot is not in focus, all is lost.
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  13. Beginner I
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    10 months ago Jeremy-David-Chua recommends the Canon 650D / T4i

    Magic Lantern capability is not yet compatible with both cameras, but I suppose it will be first supported in 650D than 7D, which has been pending for ages.

    The swivel screen of 650D is very important when taking hard angles or self-shot. I don't really see any advantage of the 7D in terms of video capability apart from the bulkier tougher body, and faster FPS (in stills anyway). If we talk about stills, that's a different story.

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  14. Beginner II
    Canon 650D / T4i
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    4 months ago Craig-Lance recommends the Canon 650D / T4i

    The Rebel T4i (650D outside USA) has the A+ Fully Automatic mode that will select from a wide range basic modes including portrait, macro, landscape, etc. It's got a high ISO limit that allows for low-light non-flash photography. It's got a Handheld Night Shot mode that allows the photographer to avoid using a tripod in most cases, But, the touch-screen flip-out display allows for easy access to all allowable features (for a given mode) by just touching them; avoiding having to remember a lot of buttons and menus.  It mimics many features of today's smartphones; swipe, touch focus, pinch zoom, etc.

    The wonderful thing about the T4i is that it truly is an entry into the world of professional photography. It shoots video 1080p 24/30fps. The lens you must use is the new EF-S 18-135mm IS STM. STM is Canon's silent stepper motor for focus, which is necessary for video since the microphones will pick up the lens while it focuses. The T4i has continual focus in video mode; So, that means that STM allows you to track a subject coming at the video camera and keep it in focus w/o picking up the sound of the lens while it keeps focus. It's also flexible focal length allows you to go from wide to telephoto 15-135mm (29-216mm 35mm equivalent). All of this in a very affordable price, Canon's most inexpensive DSLR camera. The only limitation is that it is not weather proof (okay in rain); for that, look at the Canon 7D at about $600 more.

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  15. Beginner I
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    5 months ago Leith-Al-Zubairi recommends the Canon 650D / T4i

    Id look at the black magic its a great cinematic camera, but if it is 2 expensive buy the 650D, with it  the lenses Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM.

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  16. Beginner II
    Canon EOS 60D
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    10 months ago Simon-Mortensen recommends the Canon EOS 60D

    I would go for the 60D. It has a top lcd display and  Slightly petter performence over the 650D.

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  17. Beginner I
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    10 months ago Corby-Fine recommends the Olympus OM-D E-M5

    I am a fan of the Olympus OM-D, not a full DSLR - but better!  I have the 12-50 power zoom and it is amazing for video!

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  18. Beginner I
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    10 months ago BeQa-TyuPi recommends the Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH2

    I suggest you Panasonic GH2 after hack, it becomes very good film makers cam. You can also check it and google it to see. I strongly recomend you that. its best Price/Perfomance camera for a video recording. You can buy it only for 700 buck, the rest you can waste in Prime lens and other staff for filmmaking

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3 Recommendations for
Sony SLT A77
2 Recommendations for
Canon T2i / 550D / Kiss X4
1 Recommendation for
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